'Reasons why the Bayliffes of Westminster [...] ought not to Claime the goods of Traytors and Felons, nor the Tooles Clippings &c. seized upon Clippers and False Coiners'Unknown c. 792 words The Newton Project Oxford 2017 Newton Project, University of Oxford

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 c.1696, c. 792 words.

Twelve-point memorandum asserting that both by reason and precedent such forfeitures are rightly due to the Mint.

 MINT 19/1/433-4, National Archives, Kew, Richmond, Surrey, UK UKSurreyKew, RichmondNational Archives MINT 19/1/433-4 c.1696 England English Latin Clerical Hand MintClippers, Coiners and Embezzlers Catalogue information compiled by Rob Iliffe, Peter Spargo & John Young Catalogue exported to teiHeader by Michael Hawkins Transcribed by Will Scott
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Reasons why the Bayliffe of Westminster, in vertue of That Deane & Chapters Grant, ought not to Claime the goods of Traytors and Felons, nor the Tooles Clippings & Seized upon Clippers and false Coiners.

1) His Grant in uncertaine and beyond the memory of Man and till it bee legally ascertained is but a kind of a prescription by which Traytors and Felons good cannot bee Claimed

2d. K. Ia. 1st.

2) Itt was never produced to the Kings Councell nor exhibited in any Court of Law & consequently his claime is not legally made

The abbot of Strata's, Marcella cases. Cook. p. 334

3) Hee claims tot taltal et tant bona proditor as the last Abbot of Westminster, What the Abbot had, doth not appeare and lyes upon him to make out Iudicially before hee possess himself of such forfeitures

4) Till this Grant bee produced and his Right legally made out, yethe king may bee prejudiced by his Seizeing of goods of Traytors and Felons before it bee Knowne whether his Grant warrants him in it or not

5) The Stature of the 55°. of Eliza. II. against Clipping (where there is a Salvo of their Rights to Lords of Manners) doth require the Grants by which they Claime to bee good and lawfull, which cannot bee knowne to such till they bee declared so by some Court of Law.

6) The goods and Tooles of Clippers, Clippings & fileings of money & all Clipt and counterfeit coyne, have in all former Times been seized and Secured by the Officers of the Mint only, And the Bayliffe of Westminster who had the same Grant and Right then, as hee hath now, never pretended to those seizures.

7) Their late and prresent MatiesMajesties have by Privy seale Authorized the Lord Treasurer or Comissioners of the Treasury for the Time being to take and receive all goods and forfeitures of Clippers & false Coyners, And you LdshppsLordshipps have accordingly by your Warrant upon such privy Seale deputed the Warden of the Mint to doe the same

8) The directing those small forfeitures from yethe Mint Takes away ye.the means of defraying yethe expences and rewarding yethe labour of such as assist (sometimes whole nights & often to yethe hazard of yr.your lives) in seizeing many desperate Criminalls, and discourage them from being ready to help upon sudden Occasions, & the imprisoning the Constables in the very Case by the Bayliffe of Westminster will have the same ill effect, since they acted in pursuance of their matiesmajesties Privy seale to your Lordshps.Lordships and of your Warrt.Warrant thereupon to yethe Warden of the Mint

9) The Warden of the Mint his Clerk has hitherto been at the trouble of Seizeing as well as prosecuteing such Criminalls, and defrayed the Charges of it, chiefly out of such clippings, Clipt money, Tooles &c. as were seized, and it were hard that the Bayliff of Westminster (who contributes nothing to yethe sdsaid Service) should run away with such small seizures as well as with all the Fines of Offenders abt.about the Coine, which were never contested with him as being not menctioned.ed within the Privy seale granted to yor.your Lordshpsships. These matters against his Equity for him to have an Equitable Construccontion upon such presumption of a Grant to have the Goods +c&c. And the King to bee at the Charge of Prosecucontion and presenting the mischeifmischief.

10) If the Bayliffe of Westminster has a right to Clippings & fileings of money, melted Silver &c. hee has also the same right to yethe Tooles used by Clippers and false Coiners, as Stamps, Coyning Presses edging Engines, Melting potts, +c&c. Which the Government hath allways endeavored to secure from all other hands, Than those of the Sworen Officers of the Mint

11) If the Bayliffe of Westminster obtaines these Seizeures Those of diverse other Libertys will pretend (as they do now) to the like, And either they must bee permitted to possess themselves of what doth not appeare to bee their Right, or your Lordshppshipps bee Continually Troubled with Complaints about it.

12) The Certificate now before you Lordshps.hips Signed by the Two Constables Batson and Bridgman being a true state of the case of Vdalls alsalias Rawlinsons melted Silver &c. Seized, is humbly desired may bee Read with this Memorial

Clippings &c. was made Treason by StatueStatute long after the pretended Grants to the Abbot (vizt) in Queen Mary & Eliza. therefore will the Forfeitures by these SatutesStatutes run along with the former Grant, or belong they to the King, the Offences being made Treason since the Grants.

Coppy of a Remonstance to yethe LdsLords of yethe Treasury abtabout yethe Bayliffe of Westminster.

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