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                <p rend="center" xml:id="par1"><hi rend="large">To the <choice><abbr>R<hi rend="superscript">t</hi></abbr><expan>Right</expan></choice> <choice><abbr>Hon<hi rend="superscript">ble</hi></abbr><expan>Honourable</expan></choice> the Lords <choice><abbr>Comm<hi rend="superscript">rs</hi></abbr><expan>Commissioners</expan></choice> of his <choice><abbr>Maj<hi rend="superscript">ts</hi></abbr><expan>Majestys</expan></choice> <choice><abbr>Tre<hi rend="overline">ar</hi>y</abbr><expan>Treasury</expan></choice>.</hi> <space dim="vertical" unit="lines" extent="1"/></p>
                
                <p rend="indent0" xml:id="par2">May it please <choice><abbr>yo<hi rend="superscript">r</hi></abbr><expan>your</expan></choice> <choice><abbr>Lord<hi rend="superscript">ps</hi></abbr><expan>Lordships</expan></choice> <space dim="vertical" unit="lines" extent="1"/></p>
                
                <p xml:id="par3"><hi rend="large">In</hi> obedience to <choice><abbr>yo<hi rend="superscript">r</hi></abbr><expan>your</expan></choice> <choice><abbr>Lord<hi rend="superscript">ps</hi></abbr><expan>Lordships</expan></choice> Order of Reference signified to us 
                    <lb xml:id="l1"/>by M<hi rend="superscript">r</hi> Lowndes we have considered the Memorial of the Chancellour of 
                    <lb xml:id="l2"/>Ireland about erecting a Mint in that kingdom with the Report of <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> 
                    <lb xml:id="l3"/>late Warden &amp; Master &amp; the other Papers accompanying them, and by <lb xml:id="l4"/>those Papers we find that the Officers of the Mint have long been <lb xml:id="l5"/>cautious in this matter. For in a Report made by them about 39 <lb xml:id="l6"/>years ago they use these words. "It hath <choice><orig><hi rend="underline">been, say they,</hi></orig><reg>been, say they,</reg></choice> the policy &amp; <lb xml:id="l7"/>caution of King's &amp; Queens of England to stock their Realm of Ireland <lb xml:id="l8"/>with monies (both for quantity and quality) coyned in their Mint in the <lb xml:id="l9"/>Tower of London whereof one part yet retains the name of the <lb xml:id="l10"/>Irish Mint; and King <choice><orig>I</orig><reg>J</reg></choice>ames (of happy memory) by his Indenture <lb xml:id="l11"/>of the Mint caused his Moneys stampt for Ireland to be charged <lb xml:id="l12"/>with an Harp crowned for distinctions sake whose Reasons and <lb xml:id="l13"/>examples (as we submissively conceive) may well admit your Lord<del type="over">h</del><add place="over" indicator="no">s</add>hips <lb xml:id="l14"/>first consideration.<choice><orig/><reg><supplied reason="omitted">"</supplied></reg></choice></p>
                
                <p xml:id="par4">We understand also that the late <del type="over">M</del><add place="over" indicator="no">W</add>a<del type="over">st</del><add place="over" indicator="no">rd</add>e<del type="over">r</del><add place="over" indicator="no">n</add> &amp; Master in their <lb xml:id="l15"/>Report <del type="cancelled">upon the</del> <del type="over"><gap reason="illgblDel" unit="chars" extent="1"/></del><add place="over" indicator="no">w</add>ere the more cautious by reason of a designe then <lb xml:id="l16"/>on foot of perswading the people of Ireland that their Parliament <lb xml:id="l17"/>&amp; government ought not to be subordinate to that of England.</p>
                
                <p xml:id="par5">And we do not see but that the Government <add place="supralinear" indicator="yes">of England</add> has ever been cautious <lb xml:id="l18"/><add place="supralinear lineBeginning" indicator="yes">in this matter</add> For tho a Mint in Ireland may have been upon several occasions much <lb xml:id="l19"/>desired yet it has either not been granted or not suffered to continue. <lb xml:id="l20"/>Among the Papers above mentioned we find a Warrant for erecting <lb xml:id="l21"/>such a mint soon after <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> restauration of K<add place="inline" indicator="no">ing</add> Charles <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> second but <lb xml:id="l22"/>the designe is not yet put in execution.</p>
                
                <p xml:id="par6"><del type="strikethrough">But if after considering the reasons (for they <add place="supralinear" indicator="yes"><del type="strikethrough">some of them</del></add> are above <choice><abbr>o<hi rend="superscript">r</hi></abbr><expan>our</expan></choice> judgment) <lb xml:id="l23"/>his Majesty</del><add place="supralinear" indicator="no">Yet a Mint for coyning English money there may tend to encrease the species if care be <lb xml:id="l24"/>first taken by due laws as in England to prevent the melting it down for the Indies or otherwise <lb xml:id="l25"/>exporting it. For if his <choice><abbr>Maj<hi rend="superscript">ty</hi></abbr><expan>Majesty</expan></choice> upon comparing the reasons on both sides (some of <choice><abbr>w<hi rend="superscript">ch</hi></abbr><expan>which</expan></choice> are above <choice><abbr>o<hi rend="superscript">r</hi></abbr><expan>our</expan></choice> judgment)</add> shall please that a Mint be erected in I<del type="over"><gap reason="illgblDel" unit="chars" extent="1"/></del><add place="over" indicator="no">r</add>eland, we <del type="over"><gap reason="illgblDel" unit="chars" extent="1"/></del><add place="over" indicator="no">a</add>re humbly <lb xml:id="l26"/>of opinion (for the reasons of <del type="strikethrough">the form</del> <choice><abbr>o<hi rend="superscript">r</hi></abbr><expan>our</expan></choice> Prede<del type="over">s</del><add place="over" indicator="no">c</add>essors in the Papers commu<lb type="hyphenated" xml:id="l27"/>nicated to us) that the monies coyned there should be of the same weight <lb xml:id="l28"/>allay species &amp; stamp or impression with the monies of England, adding <lb xml:id="l29"/>only such a mark of distinction as his Majesty shall think fit &amp; that <lb xml:id="l30"/>the mint be under the same rules &amp; laws with this in the Tower <lb xml:id="l31"/>but <choice><abbr>w<hi rend="superscript">th</hi></abbr><expan>with</expan></choice> such retrenchments of salaries &amp; Officers as may conveniently <lb xml:id="l32"/>be made; and that the same <del type="over"><gap reason="illgblDel" unit="chars" extent="1"/></del><add place="over" indicator="no">v</add>aluation of the moneys &amp; same proportion <lb xml:id="l33"/>of gold to silver be observed in both nations. And we are ready to pro<lb type="hyphenated" xml:id="l34"/>mote the setting up of such a Mint after the best manner and particularly 
                    
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                    to supply them with standard weights, Trial pieces, Dyes &amp; Coyning Tools <lb xml:id="l35"/>&amp; to try their money &amp; instruc<del type="over"><gap reason="illgblDel" unit="chars" extent="1"/></del><add place="over" indicator="no">t</add> their Officers at their first setting ou<del type="over"><gap reason="illgblDel" unit="chars" extent="1"/></del><add place="over" indicator="no">t</add> <lb xml:id="l36"/>But if a standing Mint should be desired for coyning from time to time <lb xml:id="l37"/>the Bullion of Merchants &amp; others (as the words of the Memorial may <lb xml:id="l38"/>import) we <choice><sic>beleive</sic><corr>believe</corr></choice> it may put Ireland to a greater charge then to <lb xml:id="l39"/>coyn such Bullion in London<del type="over">.</del><add place="over" indicator="no">,</add> <add place="inline" indicator="no">by means of an Exchange at Dublin.</add></p>
                
                <p xml:id="par7">Vpon enquiring into the state of the <del type="over">c</del><add place="over" indicator="no">C</add>oyn in Ireland we understand <lb xml:id="l40"/>that <choice><abbr>y<hi rend="superscript">e</hi></abbr><expan>the</expan></choice> forreign coyns which make a great part of their silver moneys are <lb xml:id="l41"/>generally in great pieces (as Ducato<del type="over">o</del><add place="over" indicator="no">n</add>s &amp; Pieces of eight) <choice><abbr>w<hi rend="superscript">ch</hi></abbr><expan>which</expan></choice> are inconve<lb xml:id="l42"/>nient for change &amp; that the want of smaller silver monies has incouraged <lb xml:id="l43"/>the coyning of <add place="supralinear" indicator="yes">so</add> great quantities of copper monies for change as to be <lb xml:id="l44"/>complained of: and if for remedying this inconvenience a Mint be desired <lb xml:id="l45"/>to coyn those forreign monies or any part of them into small English <lb xml:id="l46"/>money (shillings &amp; sixpences) we <choice><sic>beleive</sic><corr>believe</corr></choice> it may be <del type="cancelled">best fo</del> cheapest &amp; best <lb xml:id="l47"/>for Ireland &amp; safest for England to have this coynage dispatcht <choice><sic>a</sic><corr>at</corr></choice> once <lb xml:id="l48"/>by erecting a Mint in Ireland for some short time (as eighteen months <lb xml:id="l49"/>or two years) &amp; by lowering the value of the forreign monies to bring <lb xml:id="l50"/>them into that Mint. But we humbly lay before your Lordships that the <lb xml:id="l51"/>late Country Mints were in disorder &amp; left their Accompts full of <lb xml:id="l52"/>difficulties &amp; that the breaking up of such a Mint may increase the <lb xml:id="l53"/>number of false coyners. And we heare that the English money <lb xml:id="l54"/>is now grown much more plentifull in Ireland in proportion to the <lb xml:id="l55"/>forreign then it was a fe<del type="over"><gap reason="illgblDel" unit="chars" extent="1"/></del><add place="over" indicator="no">w</add> years ago so that the want of change is <lb xml:id="l56"/>in good measure vanish<del type="over">in</del><add place="over" indicator="no">ed</add><add place="inline" indicator="no">g</add> &amp; is still decreasing, <choice><orig>T</orig><reg>t</reg></choice>he forreign monies having <lb xml:id="l57"/>lately found a good market in London for the East Indies.</p>
                
                <p xml:id="par8">If the Government of Ireland shall think fit to discourage the <lb xml:id="l58"/>exportation of English money by setting a value something lower upon <lb xml:id="l59"/>the forreign so that when Merchants <add place="supralinear" indicator="yes">or others</add> have occasion to export gold or <lb xml:id="l60"/>silver they may chuse rather to export the forreign monies then the <lb xml:id="l61"/>English it will much promo<del type="over"><gap reason="illgblDel" unit="chars" extent="1"/></del><add place="over" indicator="no">t</add>e the encrease of the Engli<del type="over"><gap reason="illgblDel" unit="chars" extent="2"/></del><add place="over" indicator="no">sh</add> moneys in <lb xml:id="l62"/>Ireland. A difference of one or two per cent in the value of the monies <lb xml:id="l63"/>may be sufficient for this purpose, &amp; will mend the exchange to the <lb xml:id="l64"/>profit of Ireland without hindring the importation of the monies of Spain <lb xml:id="l65"/>&amp; Flanders into that Kingdome by trade. And if the exportation of the <lb xml:id="l66"/>English money were prohibited by the same laws in Ireland as in England <lb xml:id="l67"/>it would still conduce to the same end</p>
                
                <p xml:id="par9">Also if shillings &amp; sixpences were for a while raised a farthing <lb xml:id="l68"/><choice><orig>ith'</orig><reg>in the</reg></choice> shilling <choice><abbr>w<hi rend="superscript">th</hi></abbr><expan>with</expan></choice>out raising the greater money it would increase those <lb xml:id="l69"/>smaller species of money at a less charge then by a new Mint. <add place="inline interlinear" indicator="no">Or they may <lb xml:id="l70"/>be increased by returns <add place="supralinear" indicator="yes">from England</add> of small money for great.</add></p>
                
                <p xml:id="par10">But if a new Mint be judged the fittest expedient, we <choice><sic>beleive</sic><corr>believe</corr></choice> the <lb xml:id="l71"/>directions in the Warrant of 14 Car. II amongst the Papers referred to us <lb xml:id="l72"/>may be proper for such a purpose if applied &amp; restrained to the present <lb xml:id="l73"/>way of coyning by the Mill &amp; Press without a seigniorage &amp; without the <lb xml:id="l74"/>penalty of Fine &amp; Ransome upon two penny weight remedy in the single <lb xml:id="l75"/>pieces &amp; with the trial of their Pix by the Assaymaster &amp; Weigher &amp;
                    
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                    Teller of his <choice><abbr>Maj<hi rend="superscript">ts</hi></abbr><expan>Majestys</expan></choice> Mint in the Tower in the presence of the Warden, <lb xml:id="l76"/>Master &amp; Comptroller of the same Mint.</p>
                
                <p xml:id="par11">There are many Mints in France &amp; have divers in England <lb xml:id="l77"/>and if his <choice><abbr>Maj<hi rend="superscript">ty</hi></abbr><expan>Majesty</expan></choice> should think fit to set up a new <add place="supralinear" indicator="yes">one</add> any where <del type="strikethrough">in England (as <lb xml:id="l78"/>at Bristol or Chester)</del> for furnishing <add place="supralinear" indicator="yes">both</add> Ireland and the Plantations with  <lb xml:id="l79"/>silver &amp; brass money of the English standard without any <choice><sic>dependance</sic><corr>dependence</corr></choice> on the <lb xml:id="l80"/>Mint in the Tower except for the trial of the monies &amp; the stamp<del type="over">t</del><add place="over" indicator="no">s</add>, it might <lb xml:id="l81"/>put an end to the Projections <del type="cancelled">of</del> <choice><abbr>w<hi rend="superscript">ch</hi></abbr><expan>which</expan></choice> are dayly on foot for making great <lb xml:id="l82"/>advantage by coyning money for the Plantations of other Standards then <lb xml:id="l83"/>the English &amp; without due intrinsic value.</p>
                
                <p rend="indent10" xml:id="par12">All which is most humbly submitted to <choice><abbr>yo<hi rend="superscript">r</hi></abbr><expan>your</expan></choice> <choice><abbr>Lorrd<hi rend="superscript">ps</hi></abbr><expan>Lordships</expan></choice></p>
                <p rend="indent20" xml:id="par13">great Wisdome.</p>
            
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